Bob Dylan Troubled Troubadour TMOQ RARE Blue Vinyl 1856A/B Smoking Pig THE BAND
  £   36
  $   48

 


£ 36 Sold For
Mar 17, 2013 Sold Date
Mar 7, 2013 Start Date
16   Number Of Bids
  Great Britain Country Of Seller
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Bob Dylan Troubled Troubadour TMOQ Brill! RARE! Blue Vinyl 1856A/B Smoking Pig! THE BAND!   LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES IN THEIR ENTIRETY RIGHT HERE!!!

This recording comes direct from the vinyl copy you are now bidding on, straight out of my NAD amp, into my ZOOM H2 recorder, recording directly into MP3. When including these recordings for this purpose I make no audio tweaks in any way to the audio recording I have done, I do not alter the weight of the stylus, though I do use a fresh stylus, as, I'm sure we're all aware, is healthy to do anyway, very regularly!  

I'M GOING TO UPDATE THESE LISTINGS WITH LOADS MORE PHOTOS AND GRADINGS ETC OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS... PLEASE KEEP AN EYE OUT BELOW FOR ADDED INFO, BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT THESE ARE ALL OF THE SAME BRILLIANT CONDITION AS THE OTHERS IN THIS COLLECTION! (THIS TEXT MAY REMAIN AFTER I'VE UPDATED, SO CHECK BELOW FOR ANY UPDATES WHEN YOU READ THIS JUST IN CASE! FOR NOW THOUGH JUST ENJOY THE AUDIO TAKEN FROM THIS VERY LOVELY LP!

On 13-Mar-13 at 12:51:24 GMT, seller added the following information:

Troubled Troubadour

Here's what the vital resource www.bobsboots.com has to say about this LP.

Originally one of TMOQ's very first releases, either in 1970 or 1971, released in a white blank cover and blank labels, then with plain pig labels, this was a copy (apparently about 7th generation!) of Waters Of Oblivion, with tracks rearranged,  however in 1974 a different album with different insert and additional tracks (odds and ends, clothesline saga, and apple suckling tree, from the basement tapes and a December 1965 recording with the Band "Midnight train" included,a nd with the smoking pig labels.

WHAT MAKES THIS A REAL ODDITY!!! As far as I can tell there is no mention of this ever having been on coloured vinyl... Here we have it in really beautiful condition on lovely blue vinyl!!!

Really Beautiful vinyl! Very silent silences etc! A couple of very light ticks throughout the entirety of this LP!  Really Great condition here, and rare to see in this kind of condition! Visually wonderful, really wonderful, and audibly strong.

(unlike many bootlegs of this period, TMOQ bootlegs were pressed to a high standard, and therefore, audio reproduction was good to begin with, and when they’ve been kept in condition like this, it continues to be really great!

 

Conditions:

Sleeve: VG+ or EX- 

Depending on how you look at it! The original track listings were printed incompletely, the previous owner has completed them in biro below the original track listrings

Record:

Visually: VG+ (Strong!) 

A few surface hairlines only, really VERY little! There's one ring mark right on the final groove of side 1 (pressing imperfection) but that's at the end of the side anyway (I've taken a close-up of it)

Audibly: EX-

OK the recorded audio on this bootleg was suffering from being copied so many times, but this slab of vinyl must be about as good as this particular LP can sound! 

Labels Condition: VG+

On side 1 the previous owner has neatly written in small text in black ball-point pen "Troubled Troubadour", other than that absolutely nothing on side 1, not even a spindle mark. Side 2 is beautiful with just about 8 very small and faint spindle marks (really VERY small). 

 The cover claims

"All Songs from the “basement tape”, recorded on April 12th 1967 with the Band", though this is not true, please read above what www.bobsboots.com says about this particular version of this LP...

 

Side 1

I Shall Be Released

Too Much Of Nothing

Tears of Rage

The Mighty Quinn

Open the Door Homer

Nothing Was Delivered

Clothes Line Saga

Mama, But You’re So Hard (Midnight Train)

 

Side 2

Million Dollar

Yea Heavy

Mrs. Henry Please

Down In The Flood

Lo and Behold

Tiny Montgomery

This Wheel’s On Fire

You Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere

Under Apple Sucking Tree

Odds and Ends


Matrices:

Side 1:

1856-A

Side 2:

1856-B

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I will of course, if you aren't ENTIRELY happy with your item offer you a full refund upon a quick return of the item, in exactly the same condition I sent it out in, I wont however cover the postage costs- just in order to put off any time-wasters, I hope you understand. I do have here some REAL MEGA-RARITIES, and I understand perhaps your confidence in me might not be complete, as I haven't listed for a while, which is why I offer this offer of full re-embursment. However I am not a fan of the trend of people trying it on and asking to keep the item but want a partial re-fund, I haven't had it happen to me, and want to keep it that way, so please don't try that, I will happily offer your full winning bid money back upon the safe return of the item, and I think that's fair. 



I am very strict with my grading, having been a collector myself for many years, and I try to include as much relavent information as possible on sales, however if you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask, I will gladly resond as soon as I can.

One thing I would ask is that the winning bidders do leave feedback, as it's annoying when people overlook it.


I happily offer reductions of postage costs on multiple-items, 

I try grade using direct sunlight which shows up more than anything (hence where poss I take my photos in direct sunlight too), however living in the Pennine Hills, contrary to popular rumour it isn't sunny here EVERY day! So when this isn't always possible, as a backup I also use a 100 Watt lightbulb, though when poss I try to use both.


My Record Grading System:


Mint: I'm really loathe to use this term, if you ever catch me using it, it must be sealed, but also no holes in seal, and no knocks/bangs/other shelf-wear to seal. Doubt you'll ever catch me using it, makes me wince when I hear people dropping that casually into conversations about a record they just picked up on a carboot/found in a loft etc!


Near Mint: Probably still sealed, or possibly played once or twice, but I'm unable to see ANY proof it's been played ie. no spindle marks/surface abbrasions OF AN KIND even in the strongest light, in short, I have a strong suspicion this, whilst possibly not fully sealed has never been out of it's sleeve!


EX+: Must have been reverantly played about as many times as you can count on your hands! Absolutey nothing audible at all, and you'd have to be looking hard in strong light to find fault with any none audible elements of this record package. If I get hold of a record that sounds, and looks like it could have just been carried home from the shop this is about as high as I go unless in exceptional circumstances. In most instances I've found records like this I'd consider them the final upgrade, I'd even consider some sealed records EX+.


EX: Straight Excellent has to mean just that, the kind of copy you wonder how somebody kept it in that condition whilst still having a social life, especially rare in 50s/60s albums, certainly not a grade to be taken lightly or thrown about willy-nilly. Nothing should be audible to the listener during songs, and even in the silences I'd only allow the most minute groove noise.The kind of record that you'd have to look a long way to upgrade!


EX-: A Bloody lovely record, I'd allow the tiniest ticks to be audible on this, so long as they are only a handful throughout the entire record, and they are WELL back in the mix. This is a record/sleeve/insert etc. that has clearly been owned, but looked after to a degree that you ask questions about the previous owner's social life! Perfect for DJ-ing


VG+: The difference between VG+ and EX- for me is probably that the previous owner of an EX- possibly didn't have to worry about their collection being ruined too much, as they could count on their fingers the number of people that might have visited them annually, a VG+ is a more realistic grade, clearly played, but by a music lover, who took good care of their records. May have been present at social gatherings, but probably quickly tidied away when more rowdy guests turned up! Still usually  good for alot DJ-ing needs. 


VG: This is a good example of a record that has lived it's life without a glass bubble surrounding it, but it's owner has been quite careful, perhaps the odd feintly feelable mark if you go in search of it that would make an audible click/pop in a number of places on the records surface. Certainly won't be in any museum, but plays well from start to finnish, and whilst may not stand up to a DJs condition, alongside many collections, you'd be very satisfied.


VG-: As VG, but to a slightly heavier degree, might look a bit worse than a VG, else have the odd repeated click that bugs you in the fade-out of that epic side-ending song. Certainly not perfection, but you could do a damn-sight worse! OK for most collections, though there will be better ones that will probably come up (unless it's very rare!) 


G+:   This is starting to wane, shows more signifficant signs of wear/play/misuse. This could be through general carelesness, one bad night, or using a worn stylus, either way, certainly listenable/passable, but if you saw a better copy going at a decent price, you might think about buying it, and seeing what it's worth to sell this one.


G: Plays through but that's about it, signifficant noise that wasn't there when it was bought. Can still hear the song, but would only really be a filler. I doubt I'll sell anything this bad unless I really think someone will appreciate it in their collection. I'll take these down to the local charity shop and let them find their own homes on the whole!


I'll avoid anything less than this unless it's of signifficant interest, and then I'll clearly title is such. I really don't want bad feedback, and it isn't worth it for me, so I'll avoid this.


I feel my grading system is stricter than many I see used, but the sellers I respect on Ebay and elsewhere seem to be of the same mind as me, I'd much prefer to be known as someone who undergrades and you can get a good record from, than someone you have to wonder, "actually is their VG+ quite what I'd expect from that?". Hope I can win you over!

 

(SOMETIMES I MAY COME ACROSS A RECORD OF SIGNIFFICANT RARITY/DESIRABILITY THAT MAY HAVE A JUMP/STICK IN IT. IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT I THINK SOMEONE MAY WANT IT (EG. IT'S COVER'S IN GOOD NICK, OR IT'S A PRIVATE PRESSING/PROMO OF LIMITED AVAILABILITY) I'LL CLEARLY MARK THIS IN THE TITLE "JUMPS" OR "WARPED" ETC.)


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