GENESIS Foxtrot SCARCE ORIG UK 1972 B&C Credit EX+ LP
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ONEADAYRECORDS – Simply Delivering Quality Music to the World.
Postage: UK £4.75. Europe (including Russia) £12.50. Rest of World £16.50. ALL signed for in quality, safe packaging – I NEVER use mailing envelopes.
PLEASE NOTE: Overseas packets that go through the customs system, can take up to 4 to 6 weeks to process and deliver, this IS normal. For Russia, this can take even longer and is out of my control, so please be patient.
ALSO: I now apply the Ebay ‘4-day’ rule for non-payment. I try to keep my P&P prices as low as possible even yet another Royal Mail price hike, I will never compromise on solid, safe packing that is invariably a little heavier.
Artist or Band: GENESIS
Album Title: Foxtrot.
Producer(s): David Hitchcock & Genesis.
TRACK LIST:
Side 1: Watcher of the Skies; Time Table; Get ’em Out by Friday; Can-Utility and the Coastliners.
Side 2: Horizons; Supper’s Ready (parts i-vii).
Label/Format: Charisma – Original large format pink hatter with B&C credits (Please see my label scan).
Label Conditions: Both look superb and highly attractive with rich colour and barely aged at all. Side one has hardly a spindle trace to be seen, just a tiny few on side two which are mostly seen under angled light.
Cat Number: CAS 1058.
Mode / Speed: Stereo / 33.3 rpm.
Weight of this Record: 147 grams. A very impressive weight for this one, subsequent phonogram pressings were much thinner, this B&C first issue being on the heaviest I have held.
Country of Manufacture: England.
Rarity: Early pressed copies of this title are scarce especially in this type of condition. This has (had) the vertical red spine text that was later changed. But to be clear, the red has faded (as red text on spines so often do). The vertical text now appears more white, but when viewed under a magnifier, a hint of the original red is seen. So, all the text is still present, but no longer red, all the other spine ink has not faded and as stated, red ink on spines tends to do this over time. Another cover that springs to mind that has this problem, is the first Black Sabbath album, the red on that spine fades in the same way.
Original Year of Release: 1972
Matrix Nos: CAS 1058 A-1U / CAS 1058 B-1U
Mother/Stamper Codes: 1 GA / 1 O.
Run-Out Groove Etchings: ‘PORKY’ / ‘PECKO’ – all this information on quite narrow run-out areas, this early cut issue utilised most of the playing area room for maximum dynamic range with it’s wider grooves.
Musicians: Tony Banks – Organ, mellotron, piano, electric piano, 12-string, voices; Steve Hackett – Electric guitar, 12 string and 6 string solo; Phil Collins - drums, voices, assorted percussion; Peter Gabriel – lead vocal; flute, bass drum, tambourine, oboe; Michael Rutherford – bass, bass pedals, 12 string guitar, voices, cello.
Brief Info: The fourth Genesis album and third on Charisma, this one was not issued on the pink label, this is first B&C credited large hatter original. A super album it is too, and by now the band were fast gaining a cult following within the progressive market. Gabriel’s on-stage theatricals were getting more dramatic and the music was getting more complex and adventurous. ‘Foxtrot’ includes the live stage favourite in the long ‘Supper’s Ready’ which occupies most of side two and is broken into seven segments. It starts off with the classic ‘Watcher of the Skies’ and there is no filler material on this classic prog set. This album is beautifully packaged too with a fantastic cover and this vintage copy includes the original Charisma inner bag too. This copy looks hardly played and is likely to please most Genesis fans. Again I do remind, the red text on the spine has faded to white, but is still present.
Cover Grade and Format: EXCELLENT(+): an unlaminated gatefold format that is textured front and back (the inside is smooth). Like the labels, this cover has the original B&C credits and was printed and made in England by the E. J. Day Group. This one has (or now more accurately, had) the spine text in red and reading vertically – the red had faded. The original ‘Charisma puts a little colour in our cheeks’ promotional inner sleeve is also included.
Cover Front: This is a splendid example and bar the fading of the red text on the spine, would have added the extra (+) for sure. The textured surface is clean, fresh with rich colour and no speckle to the raised areas. Very gentle fading on the extreme spine edge really registers little as do any minor few creases. One small tip semi-crease on the top right, but little detracts from this very impressive and barely aged front that clearly is prone to all forms of wear.
Cover Back: The odd tiny corner tip rub apart, this is little short of as made and looks fantastic. Totally free of ring or rim marks and the colour rich and deep.
Cover Inner Gatefold: Little short of as made and looking marvellous, and blemishes almost too few and tiny to mention.
Top Edges: Both very solid and straight with any surface rubs tiny and very faint indeed.
Bottom Edges: Very light, patchy rub traces. These storage edges rarely remain totally unscathed and few will show less wear.
Right Edge(s), and Type: Clean and mostly sharp with little wear at all, any thickening or burring tiny and light as viewed critically end-on. Record enters on the back edge, both guaranteed untrimmed or enhanced.
Spine and Text: Very solid, quite thick and straight with barely any hint of compression. Also folded very close to square so the edges are parallel and meet up quite closely together and very near parallel. Again – this is the first red vertical spine text format, but the red ink has faded to near white. A gentle pink hue is still seen on the central text part, more so elsewhere under a magnifying glass. And all the text is still there and readable. There appears minimal fading of the rest of the spine artwork which is still quite strong and fully present with barely any hint of rubbing or wear, even the folds have avoided scuffs or abrasions. Red ink fades more freely than other colours – fact – so hardly unusual, this is still a very impressive original spine.
Corners: A little, mainly quite light tip rubs with the odd small tip crease. Fine to very fine shape is retained.
Cover Summary: A beautiful all-round example of this wear-prone early 70’s cover, one that will prove very difficult indeed to find much better. Rarely seen so clean and fresh, this visually impressive sleeve should please many, if not most collectors. Clearly the fading of the red spine text will be an issue to some however.
The Inner Sleeve: EXCELLENET(++): a superb example and great indication that LP has rarely been removed as this looks little handled or aged. Clean, very fresh and brightly coloured with barely any creases and all edges solid and now intact, these were never lined and very prone to splits. Just one very small and neat central edge split I very carefully and neatly repaired to stop the possibility of widening – you would hardly even know had I not mentioned it. Only the earliest examples of this album included this lovely Charisma inner which was always highly prone to ringwear which this has somehow avoided. Even the top recessed opening is crisp and very need indeed. The odd minute toning spot trace if viewed near point-blank.
Vinyl Condition/Visual Grading: EXCELLENT(+): and side one even better with little nothing more than a very few ultra faint and fine surface blemishes if viewed closely under angled light. A super visual copy that is very clean, shiny, intense black and quite heavily pressed. A copy that looks very little played and this is not an easy record to find like this. Visually a super record that should please many, if not most collectors again.
Album Played For Grading: Yes. [I play ALL records I offer before submitting to Ebay, also the record is played in its entirety unless clearly stated otherwise. I do NOT play snippets or joining grooves to check for sound quality and quietness – I play from the beginning to end via clinically revealing B&W speakers that include the legendary tweeter from their awesome Nautilus range that reveals every blemish or minuscule sound present on any record.]
Sound Quality and Audio Grading: This classic Gabriel-era Genesis record plays up to it’s high visual grading and most-all beyond with very little to fault, and Genesis albums are never easy on vinyl with many very quiet passages and complex structured music. Strong, distortion-free sound, all frequencies are sharp and clear - sound quality is very high with a wide dynamic range and very detailed sound. Any surface sounds are minimal indeed and very gentle and little unwanted registered. The odd faint surface sound is near impossible to avoid totally as is the odd sporadic tick or two on a quiet segment. But this is an exceptional clean pressing for a fairly difficult album. Few copies will outperform this early pressing significantly I feel sure. As I have said many times before, if the odd minor sound blemish is not acceptable, stick to the clinical silence of the CD (but lose the fine details and realism only the record will offer). Few records of this type will ever play ‘silent’ throughout, the format barely allows it and pressing quality from the 70s onwards was seldom 1960s standard. Charisma records were also quite variably in pressing quality sometimes with invisible pressing sounds and even distortions – none were heard on this splendid copy. Both channels are clean and sharp, I feel very sure this record has been played very lightly and has been clearly well stored and carefully handled within a non-smoking environment. Very little, if indeed anything spoilt my pleasure when play-grading this wonderful record. This copy will prove difficult to find significantly better and is strongly recommended.
Now one of the most established sellers on Ebay and still offering the finest and most accurately described and graded records I can find. I pride myself on offering a variety of genres to keep my site as interesting as possible. I will rarely offer any record that falls below a true Excellent grading, unless its of a certain rarity which will justify offering a lesser grade. I try, to the best of my ability to describe as accurately and as honesty as I can all items I offer for sale with all the relevant information I can think of to help any potential bidder and collector. You may notice I only submit records sparingly on Ebay - on average ONEADAY, a couple more at weekends if time permits, hence the name - time rarely allows for more as I Play-Grade virtually every record I offer in their entirety, not just bits to guess a grade - visuals alone do not always tell a true or full story. I will mention any defects or flaws no matter how small that I notice to be fair as possible to any interested collector – I am very fussy and my buyers have the right to be too. Every record I offer, whether it be a common or rare item deserves the same respect as far as I am concerned and will be treated the same - just because an item is rare does not always mean its good. I get just as much pleasure offering a relatively common record in stunning near mint condition as the real rare items. All the pictures I use for your guidance are taken with a digital camera or scanned - they are NOT improved, cleaned-up or made better looking than they are with camera trickery or enhancing with digital programmes. What you see is what you get and scanned labels will give a more accurate representation of the genuine colour than flash photography where light is variable. I cannot guarantee total accuracy for colours however but most will be very close. If any picture I take looks more flattering than the actual item for any reason, I will clearly state the fact in the advert and vice-versa. I hope the item below is to your liking - any questions can be emailed and I will do my very best to answer you. I am enthusiastic, and have a fair degree of knowledge about many genres and I promise quality items - bid with confidence - excellence comes as standard and so does Near Mint regularly. Please assume all records I offer have NO jumps, sticks, warps or writing on covers or labels unless clearly stated to the contrary. Thanks for your interest and Good luck – MIKE.
Equipment Used for Play-Grading: I now play-grade ALL the records I offer (unless clearly stated to the contrary) on the following equipment:Deck: Linn LP12/Hercules/Cirkus with Ittok Mk II arm and Ortofon Rondo Red moving coil cartridge (tracks at 2 grams). Amps: Naim Nait 5i with Project USB phono stage and Chord interconnects. Speakers: B&W 704 Floorstanding 3-way Monitors (bi-wired with Terrarium Black terminated cable). All records I offer on Ebay are cleaned on a professional VPI-17 vacuum machine before play-grading for the cleanest and best possible sound and will include a brand new lined inner and protective cover too. Pictures taken with a Nikon D5000 SLR Digital Camera.
PACKING - THIS IS WHAT YOU GET.
What You Get: To confirm to the strict Ebay rules on shipping, I must now send ALL my packets ‘Signed-For’ with NO exceptions. Both buyers and sellers want their packets to have a safer journey and this is not a bad thing.
I now offer the fastest possible posting, often the very next day after payment is received or within two to three days maximum (unless on holiday). I only use FIRST-CLASS Mail. The record’s cover will be placed within a BRAND NEW soft protective sleeve and the actual record will be professionally cleaned on my new VPI-17 Pro vacuum system to give ultimate clean grooves and playing surfaces and the best possible looks and ultimate sound quality. You will NOT get tired, dull looking, dust infested records inside worn and foggy covers with tatty inners from this seller and that’s a promise and guarantee. All records are posted in professional boxes (NOT Mailers, these do not offer any real protection). The record(s) are REMOVED from their main cover to avoid edge splits and placed within a brand new polylined inner. The record’s original inner will be included if available. The boxes are then reinforced with at least TWO, ULTRA THICK stiffeners for maximum extra protection – these are FOUR TIMES thicker than commercial stiffeners and are custom-made for oneadayrecords. Really rare and expensive albums will even be Double Boxed if deemed necessary and possible. When larger boxes are used, the thick record and stiffener ‘sandwich’ is then thickly embedded into bubble-wrap to bulk out the record inside the box to centre the item inside to reduce the risk of damage still further. Printed address labels are used for clarity as well as a sender label. Customers requests or special needs for P&P will be respected if at all possible but ‘Signed-For’ posting is NOT an option anymore. I do not profit on posting and the cost of this lavish packing is NOT even charged for, I offer probably the best-value and safest shipping possible for ultimate confidence. The boxes and ultra thick double-wall stiffeners and bubble wrap make a near impregnable fortress for safe shipping and this is used inland and overseas for ALL my records, not just the rare and expensive. I will invoice any winning bidder as soon as possible after the auction ends. My ‘loss’ or ‘damage rate’ is less than one in two thousand+ based on over 8,000+ items sold in over 10 years of Ebay trading and I consider that pretty exceptional. The only damage rate acceptable for this seller is ZERO and I think my packets will offer just that. It would take a vicious postman or postal service to damage these for sure. Even one of these stiffeners cannot be bent by hand, so what chance 2 inside a box? Oneadayrecords is a MAILER-FREE ZONE. I discount of course for multiple purchases with a maximum of FIVE records per box (one double can sometimes be included subject to total weight). All postage costs are below and at the top of the listing.
NOTE: First Time Bidders: Please ask me first.
PLEASE NOTE: I now exercise my right to open a dispute after the Ebay rule of FOUR days if no payment is received. I will then cancel the dispute to end the, again after the mandatory FOUR days and then offer the item to the runner-up or relist. The non-payer will also be blocked from my Ebay site and they take the Ebay consequences (a strike or removal from the system). Small businesses need prompt payment to trade and these strict rules WILL be applied.
SHIPPING COSTS & CONDITIONS – THESE comply with EBAY’S RULES - PLEASE READ CAREFULLY:
Posting & Packing: UK & CHANNEL ISLANDS all now sent via Recorded Delivery:
1 LP (FIRST-CLASS Recorded Delivery with Standard Royal Mail Insurance) [Signed For] = £4.75
1 LP (Special Delivery with Standard £500 Maximum Insurance) [Signed For, Next Day] = £8. (this includes insurance of £500). Add £2 per extra LP.
Posting & Packing: EUROPE & SCANDINAVIA. (Airmail Only):
1 LP (Small Packet ‘Signed For’ with Standard Royal Mail Insurance [£50 maximum]) = £12.50 (enhanced Royal Mail insurance is an optional extra £3). Add £3 per extra LP.
Posting & Packing: ALL OVERSEAS (non-European) e.g. USA (ANY PART OF); South America; New Zealand; Australia; Canada; Japan and other Far East; (Airmail Only: I NEVER use Surface Mail):
1 LP (Small Packet ‘Signed For’ with Standard Royal Mail Insurance [£50 maximum]) = £16.50 (£17.50 for double sets). Add £3 per extra LP. (enhanced Royal Mail insurance is an optional extra £3)
Payment Conditions:
I prefer PayPal or cheque from UK winning bidders. I can accept PayPal from overseas bidders or direct payment into my bank account.
Potential Bidders: I will cancel any bids I feel are time-wasters. A maximum 3 days for communication and 7 days for payment to arrive - if not I will relist the item or offer to the runner-up. Fast deals get great feedback from me. Any questions - please ask and thanks for looking.
My Guarantee: If any winning bidder is not satisfied with their purchase I will offer a complete refund. I will not refund if any defect detail is clearly stated on the advert and missed by the buyer, so read the item description carefully. If any overseas collector does not understand anything in my listing, please email and ask me to help. Thank You.
SOME GENERAL GUIDES TO WEAR AND CONDITIONS TO HELP YOU DECIDE
My Use of Description Terminology: Surface Marks = Superficial, usually light marks, hairlines or light scuffs that rarely sound. Scratch = a needle mark that goes below the record’s surface, some will sound, some will not, my play-grade will inform. Original = a record that has been pressed with the first label design which does NOT necessarily mean a very first pressed record. First Pressing = A record that I believe or know to be a genuine very first pressed record. I do not claim to always know for sure, and that’s why I state the stamper and matrix numbers if at all possible, for those who claim to know what they all mean, the information is there for the collector to decide. I prefer to use terms like ‘Early Copy’ rather than ‘First Pressing’ if I am not totally sure. Surface Sound = Mild, light sound, usually light crackle or similar. Distortion = Break up of the actual sound caused by groove wear or damage from a chipped stylus – the most undesirable form of unwanted sound, vintage mono records were the most prone to this happening but not exclusively so. The symptoms of distortion are high frequency clipping, moderate constant crackle or an echo type sound quality. Violin, piano and vocals are most prone to groove-wear distortion. Feathering = Fraying or softening of the entry edge of a cover. Covers with feathered entrance edges are more likely to have had the actual record inserted and removed more than a non-feathered, sharp-edged cover which are always far more attractive. Set Off, actually a printer’s term for dark ink leaving mild residue on pale or white ink when rested upon. e.g. when a gatefold cover has black ink closed against white, this can leave some black residue on the pale area – this is mostly unavoidable or course.
The Argument for Vinyl Original sound and mix (mono mixes are rarely available on CD), high quality sound on clean copies (played on a hi-end dedicated analogue system – breathtaking sound!), beautiful, large format covers, artwork, inserts and even full size posters etc; huge investment potential, and the pleasure of owning ‘the real thing’.
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