RARE FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT Nation's Forum AMERICANISM N.F 20 1st known recording
  $   65

 


$ 65 Sold For
Oct 14, 2016 Sold Date
Oct 1, 2016 Start Date
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Franklin D. Roosevelt - Americanism / Columbia Band - March (1919-1920) ** 78 rpm  12"  ** VERY RARE ** FIRST KNOWN RECORDING!


Items in this lot are:
     
  • Americanism / March -- Label: Nation's Forum -- Record#: 20

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Description: Up for your consideration is the next in a series of unique discs, this one by Franklin D. Roosevelt on one side and the Columbia Band on the other side. 

Internet research showed:
"Nation's Forum" was a record label that produced recordings of the voices of prominent Americans from 1918-1920. The label was started by St. Louis attorney Guy Golterman for the purpose of making, "permanent records of great speeches and messages in Congress and elsewhere, so that posterity may listen to the voices of the war leaders of 1918." In many cases, these are the only voice recordings of the participant.
According to the Library of Congress, there were two distinct sets of recordings. The 1918 series were all 10" recordings and was apparently distributed only to political organizations and other groups. Many of these records did not have labels. The only one made available to the public was the recording of General Pershing (with James W. Gerard on the reverse). This series was mostly devoted to WWI topics. The exact number of these recordings is unknown.
The second series (1919-1920) focused mainly on post-war issues and the 1920 election. This series is numbered 1-26, but also contains 3 non-numbered recordings by Eamonn DeValera, who led the fight to establish the Republic of Ireland.
All of the Nation's Forum were recorded in the studio with no audience present, for the purpose of recreating an important public speech.
This auction is for FDR, in his first known recording, already touching on the themes that would put him in the White House twelve years later.

Several unique things about this item:  Firstly, this disc has a mostly dull finish with a few scuffs and LOTS of very light marks (plus one small rim chip that did NOT encroach into the grooves) grading by sight in normal room light.  I'm sure if you took this and put it under a 1000 watt bulb, you'd probably find something that makes it less than mint.  If you're that kind of collector, and after a recent unpleasant experience with a buyer from Malaysia, let me suggest this auction is not for you.

I took the time to play the Roosevelt side and noted a constant light surface noise with scattered very light to light pops.  Speaking was still distinct.  I'd rate it about half way between VG and VG+ (excellent).  You can assign your own grade based on my comments and the grading scale shown below.  Keep in mind how it sounds for me may be different than how it sounds for you, depending on the difference in audio equipment.  It played with no skips.  I'm sure you could run this thru some software, if desired, to clean up the sound.

My main system for playing 78s is an old Zenith system that plays three speeds and allows me to turn a knob which flips a needle to allow for playing 78 RPMs.  If you have a player specifically designed for playing 78 RPMs, or can clean them, it (they) may sound even better. 

Secondly, at the time of this listing, no current offerings on e-bay!  NO COPIES FOUND FOR SALE OUT ON THE INTERNET!!

So this is your chance to own a unique item at a reasonable price. Bid early and often so you don't miss out on this item!   

It is further described below, please take the time to read before bidding. 

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I am using the Goldmine scale of G=Good(1), VG = Very Good(2), VG+ = Very Good Plus(excellent)(3), NM = Near Mint(4) when grading the disc(s). 


Here is a summary of the record(s):

Artist: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Columbia Band Title: Americanism / March Record: Black vinyl which has a mostly dull finish with a few small scuffs and LOTS of very light marks + a small rim chip that does NOT encroach into any grooves grading by sight in normal room light.  Labels: Purple with gold print (see acan).  No pen/pencil marks, no stickers, some spindle marks and center hole/general wear.   Remains of Roosevelt picture on Roosevelt side. Trailing wax: Side 1: "49871 1-A -7". Side 2: "49778 2-BR-65". Comments:   I found the one side I played (Roosevelt) to have a constant very light to light surface noise with some scattered very light to light pops.  Audibly rate it about half way between VG and VG+(excellent).    You can assign your own grade based on my comments and the grading scale shown below.  Keep in mind how it sounds for me may be different than how it sounds for you, depending on the difference in audio equipment.    An unusual and rare addition to your 78 RPM collection.    Side 1: Comments: Americanism Up to a constant very light to light surface noise with scattered very light to light pops (2.65). Side 2: Comments: March Audio grade provided upon request.

Additional criteria I use when audibly grading records for people:

  • NM(4) = absolutely nothing wrong at all (very rarely happens--I've even opened sealed records and they don't play Near Mint)
  • 3.5-3.9 = very, very light surface noise
  • 3.1-3.4 = very light surface noise, very light pops
  • VG+(3) = up to light pops and light surface noise (below this, one's enjoyment is affected, very subjective)
  • VG(2) = up to medium pops and moderate surface noise
  • G(1) = up to heavy pops and heavy surface noise

I normally ship 78 RPM discs in 14"x14"x6" boxes padded in styrofoam and sandwiched between cardboard, centered within the box.  Weight with box is about 2 pounds 1 ounces.  I have had great success shipping in this manner, but we both know if a postal gorilla gets ahold of this, then no package is going to survive shipping.  Thankfully, those incidents are few and far between. 

Shipping is:  $3.57 Media Rate (2-3 pounds) + $1.70 box/tape + $.50 packing peanuts =$5.77.  I am shipping to you at cost.  It actually costs me $$ because e-bay will charge me 10% of the shipping as well.

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