THE WHO My Generation VERY RARE Orig UK 65 Brunswick LP
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£ 51 Sold For
May 17, 2010 Sold Date
May 10, 2010 Start Date
£   14 Start price
9   Number Of Bids
  Great Britain Country Of Seller
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Artist or Band: THE WHO

Album Title: My Generation.

TRACK LIST:

Side 1: Out in the Street; I Don’t Mind; The Good’s Gone; La-La-La-Lies; Much Too Much; My Generation.

Side 2: The Kids Are Alright; Please Please Please; It’s Not True; I’m a Man; A Legal Matter; The Ox.

Label/Format: Brunswick – deeply ridged with a intense black matt finish (Please see my label scans).

Label Conditions: Both labels still look attractive even though the record has clearly been played numerous times. The spindle marks are very fine but considerable, but minimal wear around the hole rims. I rarely offer records that have been played to this extent and it would be total folly to put an estimate to how many. Clearly this classic record has been enjoyed over the years, and I am happy to offer the rare classics in lower grades as long as they play up to a worthwhile and minimum standard, and this really does. More detailed information further down, but as my pictures show, both labels look very nice.

Cat Number: LAT 8616.

Mode / Speed: Mono / 33.3 rpm.

Warps: Assume all records I offer have no warping of any significance and all tracking is easy and effortless and should play on all turntables and even ‘budget’ decks.

Weight of this Record: 135 grams. [These days, many modern Audiophile reissues are pressed on super-heavyweight 180 gram vinyl. Only a small percentage of ‘vintage vinyl’ was ever pressed this heavy. Records pressed in the 1960s averaged around 140 to 150 grams. Records pressed in the 1970s were usually lighter and averaged more around 115 – 125 grams. Some records pressed around 1973 were very thin and light due an oil crisis and shortage around this time. Some records were even issued on recycled vinyl from this period and sounded poor with crackle and surface noise evident from the very first play. If any record I buy is deemed ‘recycled’, I will never offer it, I have a very simple test to detect these records if I suspect this to be the case other than audible imperfection. Some records from this period were even pressed on other materials the most notable was ‘Dynaflex’, used by RCA around this time. Although inferior to vinyl, this at least mostly sounded reasonably acceptable but pressings on this material were wafer thin and flimsy. Beyond the 70s, records often became thinner and lighter still but most played fine but were never quite the quality as from the ‘Golden Era’]. (This was based on ‘average’ weights for 20 records from these eras. Later pressings were usually lighter still).

Country of Manufacture: England.

Rarity & Visuals: Very Rare with catalogue values now actually reflecting this fact (and still under-valued in most people’s opinion). Hence I have no hesitation or qualms in offering a record that has clearly been played quite a number of times and grades visually between VG(-) and VG, there are more noticeable marks on side one than two. For sound most plays nearer Excellent with just a little sound degrading in the form of light clipping or relatively minor crackle nearer the inner bands where the tracking angle gets more critical from the older equipment it was no doubt played on in the distant past. Tracking is effortless and guaranteed, no jumps or sticks. In fact my play-grade revealed only around half a dozen faint ticks, on the whole album, these mostly masked by the sheer power of the sound embedded into these vintage grooves. The playing surfaces have marks and a few low-level surface scratches, I say ‘surface’ because barely any penetrate to sound and that of course is significant. Although the sound has slightly degraded with use, this is only low-level and most plays superbly. Remember too, what equipment I am playing this 1965 mono record on. A ruthlessly revealing Linn LP12 Sondek through a Naim amp and B&W speakers, all highly clinical and merciless for hiding nothing. Such records were never designed to be played on such equipment but far more at home on a Dansette or similar single speaker record player of the era. I enjoyed this copy immensely and any minor crackle or sound blemishing almost enhances the enjoyment of this raw and brutally powerful record. No, it’s not for the discerning audiophile listener I suppose, that said, I consider myself in the category, but I still enjoyed this immensely. The cover shows its age more on the back than front, indeed the front looks fantastic with little to fault, this too, is very fragile and thin. The unprotected back has toned, more so on the left edge and also has a shop stamp near the centre ('The House of Wax, Rock n Roll Emporium'). Old mod and beat classics like this are rarely found at all let alone in high grading conditions – few survive like that. Remember this record dates back to 1965 and most all were played on unsubtle heavy-armed record players, often with chipped or worn needles that tracked at massive weights (compared to modern fine tipped stylus). The original inner sleeve (included) reitterates the point (or lack of in many cases) about worn or chipped sapphire stylus damaging records and how they should be checked and replaced after 100 plays. These cheaper and drastically inferior, softer-tipped pick-ups eroded so quickly and few bothered, hence so many old classics are right-offs and sound REALLY terrible (especially on modern critically revealing equipment). Even though played considerably, these Brunswick, (part of Decca Records) were tough and supremely well pressed and seemed to withstand less than gentle handling better than most, but groovewear or damage will always be an issue. The moderate marks (few off) and numerous hairlines and surface marks (more of) are largely ignored and the blistering rawness of the sound still excites and there is no loss of the incredible drama of the early Who sound. Just listen to the bass on the final track for example. The sound is very powerful, dynamic and loud and some of the surface sounds are lost. As stated, more present near the inner couple of bands, a little loss of absolute clarity and a little crackle is heard, it simply reminds of what you are listening too, a 45-year-old mono record that has been played and enjoyed. I can reassure, if this failed to please me, I would not offer it. A very rare early pressing of a much loved classic – the legend started here – not for the purist, but those wanting a copy of this classic as a first issue, this could just be the value-for-money copy you have been waiting for. High grading excellent to near mint copies command huge prices and not all can afford or choose to want to spend a king’s ransom on one. So not a perfect copy by any means (as the gradings suggest) but still a decent looker and fine player with a very respectable cover. Make up your own mind, if a lower-grading copy that obviously has visual and audio blemishes is not for you, DO NOT BID.

Original Year of Release: 1965

Matrix Nos: MG-10256-1B / MG-10257-1B

Stamper Codes: 2 3 C / 1 K

Musicians: Pete Townshend - lead guitar; Keith Moon - drums; Roger Daltrey - lead singer; John Entwistle - bass guitar.

Brief Artist & Album Info: Without any shadow of doubt one of the most important albums ever in the history of British rock music. A stunningly powerful debut, short, sharp songs dominate with a teenage angst and power that took the world by storm back in the mid-60s. Three young musicians of the highest quality and maturity and a specialist vocalist that remains to this day one of the greatest ever. Townshend, Moon, Daltrey and Entwistle were a class act and made some of the most wonderful albums ever issued within their field and it all started here with this masterful recording, only recently available again to the world again via CD, but even this apparently has important detail missing and sounding vastly inferior to this definitive record. Even reissues of this are scarce and only ever officially offered by Virgin on vinyl. But forget all that, this is the real thing and although it’s a copy that does show its great age somewhat, it’s still a more than worthy example that will give pleasure to many collectors. I have outlined the general conditions above but I have reitterate this copy has numerous, mostly fine marks but hardly any sound and my play-grade was a joy. There is mild sound degrading but this will be far less apparent on less revealing equipment than a Linn/Naim set-up – I do not wish to sound audio snobbish on this, it’s simply telling the truth. The level of sound on this record will be maintained for years if in the future it’s played with a lightweight tone-arm and fine stylus. The front cover looks superb, the back is aged more with toning and mild grubbiness, but how many covers this great age wont be to some extent? This remains a very respectable ‘My Generation’, not for the perfectionist or connoisseur, but for the more ‘average’ collector wanting this rare gem in their collection, a very fine opportunity that has the potential be a ‘bargain’ (the best you ever had?’)

This Cover’s Potential for Wear: Very High: although laminated on the front, this is made with very thin card and usually suffers accordingly with creasing and major laminate issues. More often seen torn with considerable damage.

Cover Grade and Format: Very Good+, the front alone grades more like Excellent and looks lovely, the back more VG(-), so a good average of my overall grade. It’s a single format with front Clarifoil laminate, this wraps around the spine edge on to the back. It was printed and made in England by Robert Stace.

Lamination & Front: Firstly, the laminate is very clear, clean and solid and only shows only very light and faint creasing. With normal viewing these have little visibility. There is no peeling or dry area blistering and it retains a very respectable shine with no dulling or rubbed areas. The full adhesion is a real bonus on such thin card, often rife with peeling and blisters, this front really is pretty exceptional given the facts. The artwork looks fantastic and this really has aged little, there is mildish record impression which is near unavoidable (unless the record has been stored outside, and how many owner ever did that?) Although used and handled, this cover has suffered no damages and to the eye, looks great.

Cover Back: Two main issues on this unprotected back: a shop stamp in a bluish ink (as mentioned above) and some toning, mainly around the edges and most near the left entrance edge. Grubbiness is very modest discounting the toning and any creasing again few and light, Mild record impression which has not really developed into ringwear. Very, very respectable indeed and many feel covers this age are actually enhanced by mild ageing.

Top Edge: Very thin indeed but showing little wear and guaranteed, no splits or repairs.

Bottom Edge: Largely as above, mild thickening and burr traces to the back panel.

Right Edge(s), and Type: This is quite neat and considering the thinness of the card in pretty good shape. Reasonably sharp with minimal wear and no feathering, slightly thickened viewed end-on but and guaranteed untrimmed with no tears. Record entered on this vulnerable right edge.

Spine and Text: A reasonable spine too, thin and flimsy again with some modest chipping but most-all text is present. The first ‘E’ in ‘GENERATION.’ has a microscopic chip and ‘U” in ‘BRUNSWICK’ is cropped on the top. Minor chips to the 8616 number too, this being somewhat critical. All other characters are still fully present and in superb shape. Some light compression and few hairline cracks.

Corners: Tip rubs are mainly light and surprisingly fine shape is retained by most.

Cover Summary: Not the best cover I have ever offered but one of the rarest. Given all the facts of delicacy and age, this is still a highly respectable example with the front especially looking fantastic. This classic cover is challenging enough just to find and I feel many Who fans and collectors will enjoy owning it. If it’s not up to the standard required, do not bid, simple.

The Inner: The vintage polylined inner is in very good condition overall. It has little wear or damage as such but has a heavy corner crease. Yes, I guess I could substitute it, but I like to keep originals with the rest of the set, warts ’n’ all. The lining intact and retaining good clarity, the window circle is very neat indeed and undamaged on both sides. It has a British patent and ‘Foreign patents pending’ text.

Vinyl Condition/Visual Grading: Very Good(-) to Very Good (the guides state, ‘a record that has clearly been played MANY times, but displays no MAJOR deterioration in sound quality, despite noticeable SURFACE MARKS and the occasional LIGHT SCRATCH’) this records fits this exactly. A very decent visual copy and side two even better, clean and retains a decent shine, intense black and very solidly pressed. Side one has around half a dozen more noticeable longer marks but no penetration and of course numerous lighter surface marks or hairlines, less on side two with most being lighter, smaller and less visible. There are NO jumps or sticks and all tracking is easy and effortless. There appear to be NO needle drops, again a major bonus on a mono record. Few survive them of course. Visually a 45-year-old record that retains its dignity and will appeal to the right collector (but of course not the purists or connoisseurs). It beats hands-down some of the dross I have seen graded the same that I consider trashed and unlistenable. Again, any doubts…

Album Played For Grading: Yes. [I play ALL records I offer before submitting to Ebay, also the record is played in its entirety unless clearly stated otherwise. I do NOT play snippetts or joining grooves to check for sound quality and quietness – I play from the beginning to end via clinically revealing B&W speakers that include the legendary tweeter from their awesome Nautilus range that reveals every blemish or miniscule sound present on any record.]

Sound Quality and Audio Grading: Small portionis of this record play up to its visual grading, but most plays above with strong, dynamic and powerful sound. I have largely outlined above in the ‘Rarity’ paragraph near the top how this sounds but I will again remind. A raw and powerful sound that masks most all of any minor imperfections or surface sounds. Okay, there is be a little crackle on the inner band songs with a little clipping to the high freqencies. A trait of many mono records that have been played any number of times as the very least. Often a party-piece, most will be trashed, hence the fast rising prices for the survivors, the ones that still actually play right through with no major problems. Any surface sounds are reasonably modest and no significant pops or clicks were noted, around six faint ones I have mentioned already, these practically most in the sonic quality of the sound. Few original, played copies will drastically outperform this very early pressing I feel sure. Let’s be honest, how many will ever play devoid of some unwanted sounds? Remember too, this record was not designed to be played on a clinically revealing high-end stereo turntables but was far more at home on a Dansette or similar single speaker record players. Given all facts, practically nothing spoilt my pleasure when play-grading this groundbreaking early Who record. This copy could prove much harder than you may think to find significantly better and can be very firmly recommended. This is NOT audiophile standard however, if you have doubts, please do not bid – I cannot be fairer on this one.

End Piece: British mid-60s popular rock at its very best. The Who had real energy and class, even on this early recording the world knew they were extra special. Nine of the 12 songs were original, few bands at this time wrote so much original material so early - Townshend is a genius. I am delighted to be able to offer this very respectable original. The importance of this vintage pressing in the history and development of British music is unquestionnable. Only rarely do debut albums have the qualities to inspire like this, and this example goes a long way to reitterate it’s importance. It’s a well played copy but STILL A GENUINE THRILL.

Now one of the most established sellers on Ebay and still offering the finest and most accurately described and graded records I can find. I pride myself on offering a variety of genres to keep my site as interesting as possible. I will rarely offer any record that falls below a true Excellent grading, unless its of a certain rarity which will justify offering a lesser grade. I try, to the best of my ability to describe as accurately and as honesty as I can all items I offer for sale with all the relevant information I can think of to help any potential bidder and collector. You may notice I only submit records sparingly on Ebay - on average ONEADAY, a couple more at weekends if time permits, hence the name - time rarely allows for more as I Play-Grade virtually every record I offer in their entirety, not just bits to guess a grade - visuals alone do not always tell a true or full story. I will mention any defects or flaws no matter how small that I notice to be fair as possible to any interested collector – I am very fussy and my buyers have the right to be too. Every record I offer, whether it be a common or rare item deserves the same respect as far as I am concerned and will be treated the same - just because an item is rare does not always mean its good. I get just as much pleasure offering a relatively common record in stunning near mint condition as the real rare items. All the pictures I use for your guidance are taken with a digital camera or scanned - they are NOT improved, cleaned-up or made better looking than they are with camera trickery or enhancing with digital programmes. What you see is what you get and scanned labels will give a more accurate representation of the genuine colour than flash photography where light is variable. I cannot guarantee total accuracy for colours however but most will be very close. If any picture I take looks more flattering than the actual item for any reason, I will clearly state the fact in the advert and vice-versa. I hope the item below is to your liking - any questions can be emailed and I will do my very best to answer you. I am enthusiastic, and have a fair degree of knowledge about many genres and I promise quality items - bid with confidence - excellence comes as standard and so does Near Mint regularly. Please assume all records I offer have NO jumps, sticks, warps or writing on covers or labels unless clearly stated to the contrary. Thanks for your interest and Good luck – MIKE.

Equipment Used for Play-Grading: I now play-grade ALL the records I offer (unless clearly stated to the contrary) on the following equipment:

Deck: Linn LP12 with Ittok Mk IV arm and Ortofon 2M moving magnet cartridge (tracks at 1.8 grams). Amps: Naim Nait 5i with Project USB phono stage and Chord interconnects. Speakers: B&W 704 Floorstanding 3-way Monitors (bi-wired). All records I offer on Ebay are cleaned on a professional Moth vacuum machine before play-grading for the cleanest and best possible sound and will include a brand new lined inner and protective cover too.

First-time, zero-rated bidders, who do not ask permission to bid, will be cancelled immediately and blocked – NO exceptions. For winning bidders who I consider excessively slow to make contact or submit payment, I will use my right to block future bids. If any bidder who wins in the final seconds is present to do so, surely they can at least email me to inform of intention and payment method? If swift or promp payment is a problem, please do not bid.

PACKING - THIS IS WHAT YOU GET - PLEASE SEE MY TYPICAL PACKING BOX PICTURE.

What You Get: To confirm to the strict Ebay rules on shipping, I must now send ALL my packets ‘Signed-For’ with NO exceptions. Both buyers and sellers want their packets to have a safer journey and this is not a bad thing.

I now offer the fastest possible posting, often the very next day after payment is received or within two to three days maximum (unless on holiday). I only use FIRST-CLASS Mail. The record’s cover will be placed within a BRAND NEW heavy duty soft protective sleeve and the actual record will be professionally cleaned on my Moth Pro vacuum system to give ultimate clean grooves and playing surfaces and the best possible looks and ultimate sound quality. You will NOT get tired, dull looking, dust infested records inside worn and foggy covers with tatty inners from this seller and that’s a promise and guarantee. All records are posted in professional thick boxes (NOT Mailers or Cruciforms, these do not offer maximum protection). The record(s) REMOVED from their main cover to avoid edge splits and placed within a brand new polylined inner. The record’s original inner will be included if available. The boxes are then reinforced with THREE or EVEN FOUR ULTRA THICK stiffeners for maximum extra protection – these are FOUR TIMES thicker than commercial stiffeners and are custom-made for oneadayrecords. Really rare and expensive albums will even be Double Boxed if deemed necessary and possible. The thick record and stiffener ‘sandwich’ is then thickly embedded into bubble-wrap to bulk out the record inside the box to centre the item inside to reduce the risk of damage still further. Printed address labels are used for clarity as well as a sender label. Customers requests or special needs for P&P will be respected if at all possible but ‘Signed-For’ posting is NOT an option anymore. Please see my picture of a typical finished box packet that will now be used on ALL transactions as from now. I do not profit on posting and the cost of this lavish packing is NOT even charged for, I offer probably the best-value and safest shipping possible for ultimate confidence. These boxes and ultra thick double-wall stiffners and bubble wrap make a near impregnable fortress for safe shipping and this is used inland and overseas for ALL my records, not just the rare and expensive. I will invoice any winning bidder as soon as possible after the auction ends. My ‘loss’ or ‘damage rate’ is less than one in two thousand based on over 6,000+ items sold in over 8 years of Ebay trading and I consider that pretty exceptional. The only damage rate acceptable for this seller is ZERO and I think my packets will offer just that. It would take a vicious postman or postal service to damage these for sure. Even one of these stiffners cannot be bent by hand, so what chance 3 or 4 inside a box? Oneadayrecords is a MAILER-FREE ZONE. I discount of course for multiple purchases with a maximum of FOUR records per box (one double can sometimes be included subject to total weight). I will not respond to questions on shipping costs as all the details are included here and on ALL of my adverts. Details below:

NOTE: First Time Bidders: I will cancel ALL first-time bidders with no feedbacks or excessive negatives who do not ask me if its OK to bid first – NO EXCEPTIONS.

Please Note: I will now offer any item to the runner-up after the mandatory Ebay 3 days if no contact is made by the winning bidder unless prior notice of any delay is given beforehand. The same applies if no payment is received within the mandatory 7 days so any bidder who has just lost out can still email me to reserve the item as priority second chance – it’s always worth asking.

SHIPPING COSTS & CONDITIONS – THESE comply with EBAY’S RULES - PLEASE READ CAREFULLY:

Posting & Packing: UK & CHANNEL ISLANDS all now sent via Recorded Delivery:

1 LP (FIRST-CLASS Recorded Delivery with Standard Royal Mail Insurance) [Signed For] = £4.

1 LP (Special Delivery with Standard £500 Maximum Insurance) [Signed For, Next Day] = £7.50. (this includes insurance of £500). Add £2 per extra LP.

Posting & Packing: EUROPE & SCANDINAVIA. (Airmail Only):

1 LP (Small Packet ‘Signed For’ with Standard Royal Mail Insurance [£40 maximum]) = £9. (insurance optional extra £3). Add £2.50 per extra LP.

Posting & Packing: ALL OVERSEAS (non-European) e.g. USA (ANY PART OF); Australia; Canada; Japan and other Far East; (Airmail Only: I NEVER use Surface Mail):

1 LP (Small Packet ‘Signed For’ with Standard Royal Mail Insurance [£39 maximum]) = £13. Add £4 per extra LP. (insurance optional extra £3)

Payment Conditions:

I prefer PayPal or cheque from UK winning bidders. I can accept PayPal from overseas bidders or direct payment into my bank account.

Potential Bidders: Please do not bid if you have negative feedback unless checking first, I will cancel any bids I feel are timewasters. A maximum 3 days for communication and 7 days for payment to arrive - if not I will relist the item or offer to the runner-up. Fast deals get great feedback from me. Any questions - please ask and thanks for looking.

My Guarantee: If any winning bidder is not satisfied with their purchase I will offer a complete refund. I will not refund if any defect detail is clearly stated on the advert and missed by the buyer, so read the item description carefully. If any overseas collector does not understand anything in my listing, please email and ask me to help. Thank You.

SOME GENERAL GUIDES TO WEAR AND CONDITIONS TO HELP YOU DECIDE

My Use of Description Terminology: Surface Marks = Superficial, usually light marks, hairlines or light scuffs that rarely sound. Scratch = a needle mark that goes below the record’s surface, some will sound, some will not, my play-grade will inform. Original = a record that has been pressed with the first label design which does NOT neccessarily mean a very first pressed record. First Pressing = A record that I believe or know to be a genuine very first pressed record. I do not claim to always know for sure, and that’s why I state the stamper and matrix numbers if at all possible, for those who claim to know what they all mean, the information is there for the collector to decide. I prefer to use terms like ‘Early Copy’ rather than ‘First Pressing’ if I am not totally sure. Surface Sound = Mild, light sound, usually light crackle or similar. Distortion = Break up of the actual sound caused by groove wear or damage from a chipped stylus – the most undesirable form of unwanted sound, vintage mono records were the most prone to this happening but not exclusively so. The symptoms of distortion are high frequency clipping, moderate constant crackle or an echo type sound quality. Violin, piano and vocals are most prone to groove-wear distortion. Feathering = Fraying or softening of the entry edge of a cover. Covers with feathered entrance edges are more likely to have had the actual record inserted and removed more than a non-feathered, sharp-edged cover which are always far more attractive. Set Off, actually a printer’s term for dark ink leaving mild residue on pale or white ink when rested upon. e.g. when a gatefold cover has black ink closed against white, this can leave some black residue on the pale area – this is mostly unavoidable or course.

The Argument for Vinyl Original sound and mix (mono mixes are rarely available on CD), high quality sound on clean copies (played on a hi-end dedicated analogue system – breathtaking sound!), beautiful, large format covers, artwork, inserts and even full size posters etc; huge investment potential, and the pleasure of owning ‘the real thing’.




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